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  1. I figured out the only method that I’m hoping is going to work for me. I’m going to do an extremely slow taper. I am currently used to taking 24mg amphetamine(60mg Vyvanse) in the morning and around 30mg Dexedrine in the afternoon. I’m going to start with one week of only decreasing The Dexedrine to 25mg. Then week 2 20mg. Week 3 decrease Vyvanse to 50mg(20mg amphetamine) keep the 20mg Dexedrine and then just go from there to figure out if I would rather decrease 5 mg from my morning dose or afternoon dose each week. But the most important thing and the only thing that has helped so far is to only bring the exact doses with me to work so I have no option to use more. If I have it I’m going to use it. I have noticed I have a very addictive routine based personality. For example a few months ago I started smoking cigarettes while looking through my emails. I found myself always needing a cigarette while looking through my emails. I feel like if I had gotten a freaking lollipop or a toothpick or something else and used that when I started reading my emails that is what would’ve been my addiction except I chose cigarettes. I’ve been seeing a therapist who specializes in CBT and DBT. What he said and what we are currently working on is I have ADHD and before I ever used amphetamines I managed my life just fine but after using them my body was trained to manage life only while on them so I need to find other mechanisms,hobbies,etc... to replace with.
  2. What form do you get yours in? I use GetZen 25mg caps and it’s about $80 for a bottle of 30. I use 25mg/day but to hit 250mg that’s like a bottle every 3 days.
  3. I don’t really know what else to do. With a family and a business I don’t know how else I can get by. I guess all I can really do is try and stick with therapeutic levels and not abuse them.
  4. It’s more so to the point where a normal persons “fatigue” is how I feel when on therapeutic doses of amp and energy only comes from high doses.
  5. Well when I went off before I was using Vyvanse at 70mg/day and each month dropped it 10mg until I hit 20mg and then stopped. Extreme fatigue the first week and then after that for the remaining 6months I still always had fatigue and lack of motivation. At that time I was working from home and only had one kid do it was somewhat manageable. A year ago we had another child and I opened my own business so I knew there was no way I could function without amphetamines again so I went back on Vyvanse. Then that lead to needing more and more so I added Adderall,etc.. I didn’t fully complete my detox earlier this month. I went off for 3 days and couldn’t take it anymore so I’m back on 60mg Vyvanse now but no Adderall or Dexedrine mid day and it’s been pretty rough. When I wake up in the mornings I feel flu like and still extremely tired even after proper sleep. When my Vyvanse kicks in I feel somewhat normal(still not energized) for about 3 hrs then it wears off. I’ve tried taking Modafinil mid day but it doesn’t do much.
  6. But why wouldn’t there be if there is a solution to other drugs. For opiates there’s naltrexone. Benzo’s theres flumazenil,etc...
  7. I’m having a hard time finding studies showing what the most beneficial CBD dosage is for maximizing overall health and neurotoxicity reduction. I’ve been using 25mg/day and studies show up to 1500 mg per day is safe and the highest dosage used in human study. ncbi has many studies showing 400mg+ But this seems like a very large dose and would cost thousands of dollars per month to use. Does anyone know the best dosage to use?
  8. I just did an experiment today. I took my Vyvanse this morning and purposely left my Adderall at work. Right now I’m extremely tired and lethargic so I just tried .25mg ropinirole for the first time. It will take a few hours to kick in but I’m curious if I notice anything. It has a pretty short half-life of around 6hrs. Im an ultra metabolizers so for me probably like 4 hours. It’s typically dosed 3x/per day so if I just take it once a day and notice a difference it might be my answer short term while being off amphetamines. Then I can assess whether or not to taper off Ropinirole. update: it’s been 3hrs and I feel no energy but I’m not as lethargic as I normally would be from no Adderall
  9. I guess it doesn’t really I was just trying to think of the healthier option.
  10. I see what you’re saying. Almost like if a cigarette takes 20 puffs to finish take 19 then 18, etc. I could definitely try this but my problem is when I have amphetamines I can’t control myself. One day I’ll do really good only take maybe 40 mg then the next day I’ll take 80. And then I sit there trying to figure out what was different on the day I only needed 40 and try and repeat it and it never works.
  11. What if I just permanently stayed on Mucuna Pruriens for L-Dopa and Fava Bean for Carbidopa. This way it’s natural and neuroprotective and could replace the use of Levodopa? And maybe supplement year round with natural herbs that are MAO-B’s? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23905090/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3708185/ Or basically what part of my dopamine system was damage from amphetamine use? If it’s just the Striatum what if I just supplemented year around with herbs and supplements that protect and increase Striatal dopamine? I realize I won’t get the high that I get from and amphetamines but I also don’t want the withdrawl or the low. I just want it balanced normally. I guess what I’m saying is if it’s going to take years to restore my dopamine system I can’t do that. I would have to have years off work and away from my kids and wife which would be impossible. This happened to my HPTA system from years of steroids. It’s pretty common for it to shut down and never return which is why people use testosterone replacement therapy. Now obviously the HPTA is much easier to deal with then fixing a neurotransmitter like dopamine but I would think there has to be some type of safe dopamine replacement therapy?
  12. Interesting because from what I have read and what my brother is going through right now Benzodiazepine withdrawl is the hardest of them all and takes the longest. And amphetamine withdrawl is supposed to be the easiest.
  13. I’m not sure if it will be but I’m just thinking of what I could incorporate for dopamine replacement therapy because there is no way I can go 6+months suffering from dopamine withdrawl symptoms as I have a business and a family,etc.. maybe Levodopa?
  14. Because I find I need more and more and I don’t want the neurotoxicity and cardiovascular negatives from amphetamines
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