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Epistan (not epistane) from prohormones.co.uk

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Hi, wondering if anyone knows about this stuff and is it the same as epistane? I have never taking any pro hormones or anything before and was interested in what it actually is. It’s sold as a beginner pro hormone, I’m taking it to help get leaner whilst gaining muscle.  Is drinking on it completely out of the question?

this is the chemical:  6-chloro-androst-4-ene-3-one-17b-ol

 

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Thanks, ok it’s all new to me and i know next to nothing about chemical compounds that ghostface  goes into detail about.  

 

It seems strange prohormones.co.uk are selling hexadrone and calling it epistan and then posting articles about epistane. 

 

Could it be dangerous to drink on a occasional evening whilst taking it? 

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It's not strange at all for a crappy fitness chemical company to repackage an old (now illegal) compound as a similarly-sounding product. In fact, you see it all the time with places who put crappy DHEA products into bottles and call them something based on older and more effective drugs of the past. Just look at most of HiTech Pharma's line:

 

https://hitechpharma.com/collections/all-products/products/superdrol

 

Their "Superdol" is not 17beta-Hydroxy-2alpha,17-dimethyl-5alpha-androstan-3-one is a 3-oxo-5alpha-steroid in this case, but some blend of shit.

 

Hexadrone is not methylated, but drinking to excess is probably not advised no matter what.

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Ok thanks for the reply. Do you know was it made illegal because it is dangerous?

I won’t drink at all on it for the next 4 weeks, sad but i almost need something like this to give me a decent reason to not drink. Only usually have a few beers a night but it’s just no good for my fitness. I am  a week in to taking it but seem to be feeling it a lot already but then that could be because I quit drinking and been to the gym every morning, it’s going to be hard to tell how good it is I guess. Very hard to find reviews on it except for the people that sell it so o guess it’s not very good at all. 

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5 hours ago, Newbie1234 said:

Ok thanks for the reply. Do you know was it made illegal because it is dangerous?

 

It is only illegal in the US.

 

This is an orally active anabolic steroid and its use entails certain risks to your health that you should understand before you start using it.

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Yeah I agree. As someone new to all this that knows little about pro hormones is this stuff a complete waste?

I feel stronger on it but could be placebo. Know the main things are healthy clean diet with high protein, some creatine, and hard training.  

 

Is there any easy to get pro hormones that are decent? Seen muscle rage sell SARMS but been reading mixed things about them.  Any advice for a newbie be much appreciated.

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This is technically an oral anabolic steroid, not a prohormone, and probably is effective at increasing muscle mass and strength given appropriate dosing.

 

Almost all available prohormones and oral designer steroids are Schedule III controlled substances in the US and difficult to get. The days of OTC designer steroid sales in the US are long over.

 

SARMs are not steroids and not (as of yet) scheduled in the US so are easier to come by. They are also far less studied so what we know about them is far more limited. Regardless of what you may read, SARMs have essentially the same side effect profile as AAS at doses that are effective at building muscle.

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As this is a really rather mild steroid, is a proper pct necessary? I have only got ‘clomadex’ which after some research seems to be pretty much a herbal test boost and not a proper pct. 

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There is a universal truth that holds for AAS use: there is no free lunch.

 

Anything effective enough to warrant use is going to likely also mess with your HPTA too.

 

That said, most men’s natty production will come back on its own without a PCT program although, YMMV.

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Agreed with STENDEC. 

 

It's not Deca, so even without a PCT, you'll probably be fine in a few weeks. If your nuts are shrunken, shriveled and totally flat, you might be fucked, but otherwise I wouldn't be too concerned. Otherwise, find some clomid for a proper PCT.

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Thanks for your reply.  No my nuts are absolutely fine perhaps even bigger.  I have gained slightly bigger muscles and got ripped abs back but  that’s probably just from working out and not drinking booze and eating good. I won’t bother with this shit again as there seems to be too little info and reports of users on forums and stuff other than people that are selling it.

Just going to keep it clean perhaps try some Osta or some sarms in a few months. Unless I can meet someone that really knows there shit and can guide me through it.

 One huge positive though that is interesting but slightly embarrassing is my ability to last longer having sex. Before I was to be honest terrible! I wouldn’t last nearly long enough for my wife, sometimes within minutes and it wouldn’t be like wow that was good it was really dissatisfying.  But now i have had nearly complete control when I cum, and it’s incredible. I have been having sex pretty much every night, wife is very very happy. Hopefully that continues.  I have also been taking ‘king test’ and ‘annihilate’ from muscle rage so perhaps it’s something in that. 

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